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show user profile  soontekk
Yes, it's that time again...

Time to design and build a new wks that will push me along the vast planes of 3dland for some years.
My current build is still very good and is delivering more than i had hoped but now it is time to up the specs a bit.

The build will involve:
- a large air case (carbide 7something)
- a watercooled 10core cpu
- 64gb ddr4 ram
- m2 ssd samsung evo pro drives (500gb main system and 250gb cache space)
- 2 asus gtx1060 oc boards with 6gb each (no gpurenders, 4-6 screens - 1 cintiq)
- 1k watts psu
- asus high end mainboard on x99 chip

First off i am wondering if i should wait for the newly announced intel chipset, chips and boards ?
Secondly i am wondering if AMD is worth trying, do they even have hi-speed 10-20 cores ? I thought they did but never used them...

Ram speeds will be between 2400-3000mhz

This system will be used for everything i do so 3d web gfx video and some VR in unreal engine.
Mostly i want to have a lot of tools open without any problems (has not been an issue with current system so..) and i want to be able to do fast 3D work and testing so fast preview rendering is absolutely key for me.

Any ideas or remarks are more than welcome !
Cheers, Kurt

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4/26/2017 10:31:53 AM (last edit: 4/26/2017 10:31:53 AM)
show user profile  Nik Clark
Personally, since you are spending so much anyway, I'd go for 1070's. They are a sweet spot of power and performance at the moment, and you might find yourself wanting to make use of the GPU power in the future.

I am biased towards GPU rendering though.



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4/26/2017 10:44:46 AM (last edit: 4/26/2017 10:44:46 AM)
show user profile  soontekk
Hey Nik, roger that, i never go for the highest nvids, the money i save grants me the (mental) room to upgrade to the next generation quicker which is an all out win like that.

The cards will be chosen at the time of the actual build (next month) so if the price is right i might go for 8gb 70s like you suggest.

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4/26/2017 10:55:55 AM (last edit: 4/26/2017 10:55:55 AM)
show user profile  ijzerman
Why 2 videocards? Just get one decent one, as Nik suggested :)
Have you seen the fastest AMD processor? And the AMD server stuff that is coming up? there's 16 cores with hyperthreading coming up. Dont know how fast though.
Also, why the epic psu?
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4/26/2017 11:47:08 AM (last edit: 4/26/2017 11:47:08 AM)
show user profile  soontekk
hi mate, 2 cards because i use many screens and a cintiq
but you have a point, since i can't use sli because of the screens i don't need them to be identical!

yes i know, amd has been doing well but i only see 8 core cpus for wks and no clue how they relate to the i7 6950x with 10 cores

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4/26/2017 2:20:08 PM (last edit: 4/26/2017 2:36:16 PM)
show user profile  ijzerman
processor wise, i would go for the fastest intel 8 core over the 10 core because the price increase for the 2 extra physical cores doesnt really add up. At the office we have dual 12 core xeons. Great with rendering but in after effects and 3ds i sometimes miss the crazy clockspeeds so i would look for something as fast per core as possible.
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4/26/2017 2:41:23 PM (last edit: 4/26/2017 2:41:23 PM)
show user profile  soontekk
I now have the 6core xtreme from a few years back clocked at 3.9ghz per core. Kinda looking forward to having 20 renderbuckets instead of 12 or even 16 :)

Since i don't have to build a new wks each year anymore i can justify the xtra € put into the cpu

My only concern is the possible arrival of a new generation chip which will make my investment less efficient seeing that the current 10c xtreme has been available for a good while.
I know that a new chip will be a lot more costly so all in all it will balance itself out a bit.

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4/26/2017 2:50:13 PM (last edit: 4/26/2017 2:50:13 PM)
show user profile  ijzerman
It never ends really, there's always something new around the corner.
20 buckets are nice, have you looked into a 2011 v4 or v3 motherboard?
There's xeons out there with decent clockspeeds +3.0 ghz and you can get 2 of them in a mobo. Moar buckets! Price difference wont be that big because of the premium you pay for getting the top of the line I7
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4/26/2017 2:58:15 PM (last edit: 4/26/2017 2:58:15 PM)
show user profile  soontekk
I used to build dual cpu systems, even designed a quad cpu system once :o
The fact of the matter is that such a system will always have a higher cost and multi cpu boards have drawbacks or tradeoffs if you will.
There is also a question of noise and the fact that if you burn a cpu after a few years you might not find a suitable twin anymore. Sticking to a powerful solo chip has been the most efficient way for me the past decade or so.
Instead of dual cpu machine i now use my self built renderfarm which is a very good alternative (rendering stuff out while you work).

Also,when you delve into the decent xeons 14 core 3ghz or the like, prices are going up fast and high.

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4/26/2017 5:00:00 PM (last edit: 4/26/2017 5:00:00 PM)
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