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Tiles and texturizing techniques
show user profile  Gian92
Hello folks,

Granted that I'm an amateur and not an expert, I'm currently operating in the architecture sector and I need thorough advice about texturizing an old building (a convent).

The first main issue I've encountered is the tiles: the repetitive effect is awful:



Is there a way to randomize such tiles or other workarounds?


The second issue is that this building has a lot of materials mixed together:



Please don't consider the exhibited pieces of work.

Are there texture blending techniques (with randomness) and if so could you please recommend and/or explain me which you think is more appropriate for this case (also tutorials would be much appreciated)?

I almost forgot, I'm working with 3ds Max Design.

Many thanks
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6/1/2012 11:07:40 AM (last edit: 6/1/2012 11:21:28 AM)
show user profile  STRAT
for both questions, your best method is to either go out and spend some money on pro textures (like Arroway) that are sold specifically at good hi-res and varied enough to minimise tiling, or, like we do, go out and shoot your own and compile in photoshop.

this really is the only way to professionally get the results you want. procedural methods like colour mixers, changers and shaders are good, but not. and noticeably not pro.

to get great results you must invest time, if not money.





SJLEWORTHY.COM










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6/1/2012 11:28:50 AM (last edit: 6/1/2012 11:30:03 AM)
show user profile  Gian92
Thanks for replying. With Photoshop, do you mean taking multiple pictures of many tiles, stones and bricks and joining them in a single image?
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6/1/2012 11:37:24 AM (last edit: 6/1/2012 11:37:24 AM)
show user profile  STRAT
yes. and we might be talking 1000's of pixels per map here. which is quite normal.

but there are colour mixers/changers that allow you to create multiple texture maps, and it'll randomise and change the texture position during render time.





SJLEWORTHY.COM










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6/1/2012 11:41:13 AM (last edit: 6/1/2012 11:41:30 AM)
show user profile  LionDebt
For the tiles...

Someone posted a method or linked a tutorial whereby a road/race track was planar mapped. But each square was assigned a random or different material ID. And the corresponding texture had various asphalt details, cracks, painted lines etc on each grid. I'm in a rush this morning so don't have time to look for it but maybe someone else remembers it. Also, what Strat said.






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6/1/2012 11:46:25 AM (last edit: 6/1/2012 11:46:25 AM)
show user profile  Gian92
Hmm, if the randomness is during render time I think it's not my case, because I have to make a video (walkthrough).
Would you mind recommending me tutorials about mapping techniques for this kind of work?
Also, what mixers/changers are you talking about?

PS Your work is astonishing!
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6/1/2012 11:50:19 AM (last edit: 6/1/2012 11:55:08 AM)
show user profile  Gian92
@LionDebt

That sounds interesting, I hope someone will find it. Thanks
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6/1/2012 11:53:48 AM (last edit: 6/1/2012 11:53:48 AM)
show user profile  advance-software
Amish bob for the win.

http://maxforums.org/threads/discovered_tiling_textures_variation/0001.aspx








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6/1/2012 12:09:58 PM (last edit: 6/1/2012 12:10:08 PM)
show user profile  Gian92
@advance-software

Thanks!
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6/1/2012 1:59:57 PM (last edit: 6/1/2012 1:59:57 PM)
show user profile  advance-software
say thanks to amish bob, not me, I just gave you the link !

:)







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6/1/2012 2:35:37 PM (last edit: 6/1/2012 2:35:37 PM)
show user profile  LionDebt
Ahem.. :)






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6/1/2012 5:35:16 PM (last edit: 6/1/2012 5:35:16 PM)
show user profile  advance-software
translation: liondebt wants a big up for reminding me to send you a link that he got from me regarding the awesome work done by amish bob.

yes, we are all children. :)

where is bob anyhow ?







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6/1/2012 5:56:03 PM (last edit: 6/1/2012 6:03:58 PM)
show user profile  LionDebt
I was just clearing my throat, over the internet, actually.


























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6/1/2012 6:04:15 PM (last edit: 6/1/2012 6:04:15 PM)
show user profile  Gian92
:)
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6/1/2012 9:34:25 PM (last edit: 6/1/2012 9:34:25 PM)
show user profile  Gian92
Hey guys,

With Photoshop cutout filter on one layer and high pass on another and playing with levels and contrast/brightness/saturation settings I got this:



What do you think about it?

Now I have three further questions:

1. I set the bitmap blurring at 0.3 instead of 1, but the texture is still blurry at far distance. What settings do I have to play with to have a sharper texture?

2. I'm using reytrace reflection, but as you can see I get a strange artifact: it is brighter in the edges as if there were neon lamps at the base of the walls. Is it possible to get rid of that strange brightness? (I'm using an exponential attenuation with 4 as exponent; could be that the problem? It would be strange anyway, because it should only reflect, not add light). An unstylish circumvention would be using falloff as specular colour, but that's not so "pro".

3. Where are the ambient occlusion settings (if any)? As you can see the shading is poor, so I wanted to improve it as long as it doesn't hit rendering time too much (I'm using mental ray).

Thanks
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6/5/2012 6:53:44 PM (last edit: 6/5/2012 6:55:46 PM)
 
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